Chivalry Lost

Charisma Dealer in Training


Sunday, August 27, 2006

FR: Two Argentinians in One Day

I'm leaving my parked car on my way to Pickup Triangle after the Lair meeting. Rally just gave an awesome talk on body language and the whole group is fired up for day game at PT. The sun is shining, it's warm outside, and I've got an awesome day ahead of me.

I'm set to meet up with some AFC friends for dinner at 7 PM, so I call ahead to make reservations. HBArgentinian answers, we're talking about the restaurant, whatever.

HBArgentinian: what's your last name?
VW: Wilder
HBArgentinian: first name?
VW: Van
HBArgentinian: what's your phone number?
VW: Oh my God I just met you a minute ago and you barely know me, but you're already asking for my phone number? Oh God you're not a stalker are you? OK you can stalk me if you want, but only on Tuesday; I already have stalkers on Monday and the rest of the week. Deal?
::HBArgentinian giggles her ass off::
VW: Be sure to bring binoculars for the best view and park outside on the street.
::HBArgentinian gigigles more::
HBArgentinian: you are so funny!
VW: yeah, I'm a part-time comedian. But if we keep talking I'm going to have to charge--this shit ain't free.
::HBArgentinian laughs more::
VW: so what do you do?
HBArgentinian: well I work here during the day and bust my butt.
VW: cool, are you cute?
HBArgentinian: well I am a model actually.
VW: like a hand model?
:: HBArgentinian laughs like hell::
VW: do you always flirt with customers? I'm going to have to talk to your manager, honey.
HBArgentinian: blah blah blah about her manager blah blah blah
HBArgentinian: Ok so what is your phone number, dear? (I'm trying to set the stage for our relationship: honey, dear, sweetie)
VW: 123-456-789
HBArgentinian: wow what area code is 123?
VW: the moon. I'm in town visiting for a few weeks. You earthlings seem nice.
:: HBArgentinian laughs :: (in hindsight I need a better response to that since people always ask where 301 is from)
HBArgentinian: what's the moon like?
VW: it's cold this time of the year, so that's why I come to earth around now.
HBArgentinian: can you take me back to the moon, sweetie?
VW: I dunno, you seem like you're trouble. We'll see what you're like in person, and maybe I'll bring you on my rocket ship.
::HBArgentinian giggles::
VW: how tall are you?
HBArgentinian: 5'2"
VW: uh oh, I'm 6'2"... I'm a foot taller than you. Our first kiss is going to be really awkward, but after that it'll always be amazing.
:: HBArgentinian continues to eat it up ::
HBArgentinian: I'm actually kind of buzzed right now
VW: damn you're drinking at work? you ARE trouble!
:: HBArgentinian somehow mentions she drinks 40s, specifically Mickeys ::
VW: oh god you're a Mickeys girl? I'm an Olde English guy... I don't know if we can hang out.
HBArgentinian: oh we definitely can!

I use the alpha male paradigm and tell her what's going on next:

VW: OK, you're off work at 3 so I'll give you a call at 9.
HBArgentinian: I'll be sitting around waiting for your call.

Later I run into Strollnus on the street and he has an incredibly cute girl with him. She's ALSO Argentinian. I'm thinking damn Strollnus, good set! I walk into Starbucks with them. I fluff with HBArgentinian2 and find out she actually knows HBArgentinian, but I keep going and ask Strollnus "is this your target?" She's free game (they are coworkers) and Strollnus invites me to sit with them. He asks what good accomplishments I have to social proof me to HBArgentinian2. I tell him I've traveled around the world and I love Capoeira. (well done Strollnus--thanks for asking)

We're in set chatting and I find out she's helping Strollnus shop, so I ask her to critique my style. She likes it but dammit I'm going on a shopping date with this girl, so we vibe about that, capoeira, travel, etc. We set up a date for the three of us to go dancing and I also find out she likes digital photography. I'm getting a digital SLR soon myself so I say "awesome, when I get my camera we're going to take pictures together... blah blah blah" She agrees. Doing the whole playful "awesome you're my new <<>>" works great almost every time. I've used all sorts of roles: girlfriend, best friend, personal fashion consultant, raining putt putt buddy, etc.

Lessons learned:
  • Always be playful! I haven't even met this girl and we already are planning our day2.
  • Always be alpha. Not necessarily controlling, but leading---this is sooooo key. You can see with both sets I'm leading the girls where I want them to go.
  • Banter banter banter, but also follow up with push-pull.
  • Hold the frame that you're already going to be in a relationship. MarinaHunter taught me this and I'm finding it works really well. Notice with HBArgentinian that she assumed the role of my girlfriend and was using endearing terms on me after I first set the stage for it.
  • I was definitely running a lot of attraction (banter) on her and should have done more rapport, but if she's a model I figure I need to increase BT as much as possible. Remember guys: as soon as she's attracted, go to rapport. You don't need to stay in attraction.
  • You're always on! I had no idea I'd get a day2 by making dinner reservations.
UPDATE: I was set to call HBArgentinian at 9 PM when she was to start drinking a 40. At 8 PM I text her and say "don't drink too much honey, you know what happens when you're drunk :-)". No response. I call her at 9 PM and she doesn't pick up... I'm thinking fuck, I got Seattle Frozen again. Then at 10 PM I get a text from her:

HBArgentinian: Hey!

I don't respond. 5 minutes later:

HBArgentinian: Van?

I don't respond. 5 minutes later my phone rings and it's her. I ignore her. This is her punishment for not picking up the phone when I called. I debated whether to respond but I'd rather give her the gift of my absence (credit: DavidD). Tomorrow I'll call/text her and tell her I was out already, but I'm trying to establish the frame that:
  1. I demand respect (punctuality -- I told her I'd call her then so no excuses after she agreed),
  2. I'm a busy man and I don't have time for flakes, and
  3. I'm not needy/going to chase her at her convenience.

Thursday, August 10, 2006

Breakthroughs in One Month

OK, so I am pretty hard on myself usually. I've been in this community outside the realm of a KJ for about five months (total community time is around ten months). When I first started, I was a WBAFC, i.e. would never even have the courage to ask a girl for her phone number. I've made some huge jumps in the past few months (especially after rolling with Mango and Positive in SF), but I'd like to remind myself the accomplishments I've made over the past month:
  • This week: Had a solid Day2 with a cute target -- hadn't had a Day2 all summer... just didn't seem to care for a while after some personal problems.
  • Last Week: had a female friend's roommate say to her, "man, that guy makes me wish I was single!"
  • Yesterday: #closed an HBTall without even asking -- she just wrote her # down on a card and gave it to me. She was cute but actually taller than I am... eh, not really attracted to that. Still, it felt great.
  • Today: hired gun at Kell's Irish pub flat out hitting on me during service. Like HBTall, I wasn't even trying to hit on her, I was just being totally chill with a semi-flirtatious smile and a light touch of rapport. No kino. Still, I think it was just my attitude of this fun, cool, and flirtatious guy that really got her going.
After Mango and Positive were just up here, Seattle feels like a different town. We've found ourselves the best equivalent of Pickup Square from SF (we call ours Pickup Triangle) and we now have a solid army of PUAs ready for battle. Where will this all lead? I've got a feeling we're in for a hell of a ride, and the momentum is really building.

In summary, I am trying to be less harsh on myself, and I should focus more on what I have achieved versus what I have not. I'm still light years ahead of my game from last year, and I think once I get past a few more sticking points, I'm going to be phenomenal. That perfect set is coming along very soon; you know, that set where everything just clicks.

Tomorrow, 4-5 PUAs are meeting at Pickup Triangle for day game. Let's see what happens...

Sunday, August 06, 2006

FR: Friday Aug 4, Belltown

I met up with some great wings on Friday night in Belltown, including Mellow Yellow, Switch, Wuhoo, Voodoo, Tarzan, Valentino, and Mango and Positive who were in town for the weekend. We hit up The Apartment around 7 to get some drinks.

We're chillaxing and Mango wants me to practice some night game. Tarzan goes into a seated 2-set at the bar and opens. Mango asks me to wing him in about 60 seconds and I go in, using the great target-finding signal to Tarzan:

Me: Hey, which of these girls is trouble?
Tarzan: This one is totally trouble.

I sit down next to my target and so Tarzan can isolate. I banter for a bit with her, play some people watching with her, but ultimately get bored with the conversation. I want to tell Tarzan I need to get out, but a good wing will hold the set as long as necessary. Eventually we eject and I post mortem with Tarzan. We talk with Mellow Yellow and discuss our signal for asking the other wing if the set is failing and we want to eject, or if he needs us to hold the obstacle(s) for him. In the future, you ask your wing mid-set, "Hey is your girl too nice? 'cause this one's way too nice for me." If he says yes, it means stay in your set. If he says no, then start your 60 second countdown and prepare to close out the set.

Venue change to Black Label.

I'm seated at the bar next to Mango enjoying my hallmark drink, the Apple Martini. Mango spots a 2-set across the bar and sends me in. I wait for a few seconds for the right moment and as soon as they are taking out their camera, I jump in.

Me: Oh you're taking pictures, I love pictures, smile big!

They both give me the first impression scan down to see if I'm being playful or trying too hard, but they see the smile on my face and say OK!

I enter the set and start bantering. Mellow Yellow walks in, I identify my target, and the set is rolling. I'm actually quite taken by my target but her food has arrived and her friend asks if we would come back later. I politefully eject and tell my target I really enjoyed talking with her and would like to continue the conversation later. She agrees.

I continue to open some sets in the bar to continue having fun, and I end up bantering with all sorts of sets and just having fun. Eventually we have to bounce so I run up to my target and go for the #close in case I don't see her again, but I ask her to show up to Amber later that night.

She does. I open her in Amber and end up being in set with her for at least an hour. Her friend refuses to leave us so I can't run much rapport, and in fact her friend is calling out how I am flirting with her and she's not going to leave unless some cute guy picks her up. Throughout the next two hours I'm running every story I have, my identity stories, my attraction stories, the Amber-exhausted Indiana Jones vs. James Bond routine... everything in my stack to keep the conversation going. My target is liking me and kino'ing back, but I've never held a night set this long without going to rapport so I'm throwing out everything in the arsenal. Wings are entering left and right to help me with isolation, including Valentino, Tarzan, Mango, Positive, and Mellow Yellow. It's a long set and I only got to rapport with my target for about 3 minutes before her friend returned, but I established my day2 with her and the set was a success in my eyes. One of those sets...

I eject and the PUAs venue change to Twist. I tell the bouncer that these are my friends and he lets them all in without checking their IDs. (credit: Mango for social proof tips) We are inside talking with lots of PUAs and having a good time overall, and as we're about to close out, I see a seated 6 set of mostly blondes. I've got a drink in my hand and I walk right up to them:

Me: (drink up) Hey guys, cheers! (credit: Positive)
HBs: Our friend is getting married, blah blah blah

I walk over to the bride and her very cute blonde friend. I banter a bit, congratulations, etc. Awesome comes into the set and reminds me to kino my target, which I do. I'm having a great time and they are loving me. No routines really, just a really warm vibe I'm sending out to them.

I banter a bit more with their friends and we're all heading out. As I'm outside with the PUAs, I see the bachellorette party girls coming out and re-open the bride and her other friend, another cute blonde. Banter, kino, etc. as always, until I spot a super cute blonde (drunk) coming out. I walk right up to her and grab her hand, saying how nice it was to talk to them (big smile on my face). I squeeze her hand to test for attraction (positive) and give her a hug goodbye. In hindsight, I could have kissed her.

Lessons learned:
  1. Wing dynamics are important. I learned how to signal to my wings that I'm not interested in my girl, and I need to know if he is still interested in his target and how we can communicate that.
  2. I'd prefer not to stay in set with my main set of the night that long, but honestly I think her friend really did a great job of cockblocking. At the end of the night though, I was getting hugs and she said that she totally approves of me seeing her friend. Not that I needed approval, but it's more social proof.
  3. Bachellorette parties full of blondes are great! They're all tipsy and having fun. If you grab a girl's hand and she passes the attraction test, go ahead and order her to kiss you (repeat: order her, don't ask for permission; you really can simply say "I've gotta go, kiss me").
Overall, it was a great night and it was so much fun rolling with the Seattle PUAs. You guys are great and I have strong feeling the new Lair is really going to blossom over the next few months. Keep up the good work!